I will pray for you. You must also pray for help and to know what to do. We know that God is our Father and He loves us. He will help you find the true religion. Please read more about prayer here, and begin reading the Book of Mormon here. The Book of Mormon helps me every day to know what Heavenly Father wants me to do. I am sure it will also help you.

I wish the Church had a presence in Somalia, but right now there are no chapels or missionaries there. Abdi, if you want to keep learning about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, please keep posting comments. We’d love to hear more about you and what you are thinking about.

While this is true, the interpretations of scriptures of the different “Christian” churches is still based on the same bible. As a non LDS christian, the use of the Book of Mormon by the LDS church is the part that is hard for me to reconcile.

In the end… I don’t believe it matters. As long as a person accepts christ and recognizes that he is our saviour… I think he/she is in a good place.

As for Terry, you sound pretty mad.?

When the Book of Mormon has so many errors, inconsistencies and alterations that the only way to explain them away is to say “Just pray to see if it is true”, then you’ve got a real problem with what you believe. I implore all Mormons to examine what you believe critically, independent of the LDS church and your elders. You cannot go to your elders with the questions the outside world is asking. They will only tell you the same thing they’ve always told you. That’s like asking Hulk Hogan if he belives WWF is real wrestling. OF COURSE he’s going to tell you “yes” and tell you what you want to hear. He IS a wrestler.

Step outside of the Mormon bubble and examine what you believe critically. Read and learn about all the true information that the rest of the world has access to about Mormonism. Believe it or not, you can really get access to all the original Mormon documents and files and see what has changed between then and your present day materials. If the Mormon scriptures are as perfect & true as the LDS church boasts, why all the changes over the years? If you ask me, the problem is a false religion coupled with cultural relativism.

And don’t give me the old “so as it is correctly translated” excuse. Mormons basically took what Josheph Smith had “translated” from the tablets at face value. Furthermore, “Reformed Egyptian hieroglyphics” never existed! Talk about a “so as it is correctly translated” conundrum. And I venture to say that if both the first AND second tablets had broken, JS would have produced a third tablet……tada!

Regarding the comment “We may disagree on some details of His exact nature, but we agree on who He is (in general terms).”

The “some details” are PRETTY IMPORTANT details. Mormons basically trample the very essence of who Jesus is, based on the Holy Bible, and it’s a slap in the face to Christians (yes…the “real true ultra super” Christians of the Holy Bible). …..(just poking a little fun at the latest “true Christian campaign headed up by the LDS church)
Jesus WAS NOT a brother of Satan.
Jesus IS a part of the Holy Trinity of Father-Son-Holy spirit as ONE GOD-HEAD, not three separate Gods.
GOD was, is, and always will be the same. God was NOT created from a man. The belief God came from a man basically disempowers God in blasphemy and renders Him incapable of all that He has actually done with Creation. Man cannot do what God can do. Man cannot become a God. When Mormons claim that they become Gods, they are making the same mistake Satan did.
Those are a couple of the “some details” that Mormons try to pass off as unimportant.

Mormons, I implore you to step outside your “comfort zone” and really take a look at what you believe from an impartial perspective. Take a look at all the questions and evidence available that proves Mormonism is NOT christianity and is not true . Don’t hold on to something false just because you’re worried what you’re family will think or if your church will excommunicate you (that’s some loving church). It’s a tough thing to swallow your pride and humble yourselves into researching information that would prove what you believe to be wrong. Who wants to find out they’ve believed something false for so long? I know I wouldn’t, but it would be worth it if my eternity depended on it, which it does! And so does yours!

Is The Book of Mormon the word of God or not? I know it is. I’ve paid the price to know….reading, pondering, praying about it. I worked for two years solid to create a free site for anyone who wants to really understand the Book of Mormon…..plainBookofMormon.com.

It seems that online, we find more intellectuals who want to pretend they are humble and have faith in Christ, but in the end, will be found to be egg-heads who really wanted everything their way. To be a true Christian is to be humble and teachable…..willing to do anything to further the Lord’s will. It’s the least we can do, if we love Him. He did say, “my sheep hear my voice”. And another man said, “If we don’t follow the voice of the Good Shepard, than whose sheep are we?” I like that line of reasoning. Satan is so clever, to entrap people with their own smug form of Christian living.

I hope we can all rise above the smugness, and just do the will of the Lord, expecting His grace to save us, “after all we can do” as John wrote.

Tim

Tim

I definitely agree that we’re talking about the same guy, Jesus of Nazareth. But we do not believe the same things about Him or His nature. I say that instead of ‘details of His exact nature’ because I don’t think the things we disagree on are not details at all, but come down to the very nature of God.

There is a wonderful book named Knowledge of the Holy by A.W. Tozer and I would recommend it to you guys to read. It’s all about the attributes of God. In it, Tozer says,

“What comes into our minds when we think about God is the most important thing about us. The history of mankind will probably show that no people has ever risen above its religion, and man’s spiritual history will positively demonstrate that no religion has ever been greater than its idea of God.”

The book is about thinking rightly about God, not just thinking about Him. It’s one of my favorite devotional books.

Sorry I never got into the sufficiency of Scripture. It’s really a moot point given that we will not agree on one another’s interpretation.

To that point, however. Do you believe there is ONE correct interpretation of Scripture?
Our ideas about God are different

I would hesitate to phrase it that way. When we talk about Jesus, we are talking about the same person, but our conceptions of Him are different. We believe different things about Jesus.

The reason I nitpick is because I’ve run into a few people who claim that “Mormons believe in a different Jesus,” but that leads naive listeners to think we worship some Jesus Jones from Connecticut or something.

The Jesus we believe in was born of Mary in Bethlehem. He walked on water in Galilee. He was crucified on Calvary by Roman soldiers. We believe everything that is written about Him in Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, etc. He has a LOT in common with the Jesus you believe in. So much in common, I think it’s safe to assume we’re talking about the same person.

We may disagree on some details of His exact nature, but we agree on who He is (in general terms). Please read an article called “Jesus the Christ” to see for yourself.

Well, we disagree on who God and Jesus are (at least I think that’s what Dave was saying).

And our interpretation of the Bible is different. That seems clear since our conclusions are different. So…if we’re both reading the same verses and we both think we’re right, can both of us be right?

I only assume you guys think you are correct in your interpretation of the Bible. I sure believe I’m correct. It would be really silly for one of us to KNOW we were wrong and say we were right. But I’m almost certain neither of us is doing that.

For what it’s worth, it did seem like you were just looking for the chance to one-up us in an argument, by your darting from topic to topic. Especially since we see these same tired arguments frequently from evangelical Christians who have no other object than declaring our doctrines false.

We are happy to entertain questions, but we’d prefer to do it with people who listen to our side and give our arguments full consideration.

Which is why I’m thrilled to learn you are willing to do that! We’d love to demonstrate how our theology is fully compatible with the Bible, as long as you recognize that you and we don’t share the same interpretation of every verse.

Like Dave said, our beliefs don’t contradict the Bible, but they may contradict your interpretation of it.