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	<title>Comments on: Tithing and Unpaid Clergy</title>
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		<title>By: Willie</title>
		<link>http://www.whatdomormonsbelieve.com/2008/08/tithing-and-unpaid-clergy/comment-page-1/#comment-985</link>
		<dc:creator>Willie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 23:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is known that the church owns several commercial businesses.  President Gordon B. Hinckley &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=57648949f2f6b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;hideNav=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;noted in General Conference&lt;/a&gt; that &quot;the business assets which the Church has today are an outgrowth of enterprises which were begun in the pioneer era of our history.&quot;

Rayzor pointed out that some of the general authorities receive a living stipend, which is true.  For those who happen to worry about tithing being used for this, President Hinckley also stated in the same talk, &quot;I should like to add, parenthetically for your information, that the living allowances given the General Authorities, which are very modest in comparison with executive compensation in industry and the professions, &lt;i&gt;come from this business income and &lt;b&gt;not from the tithing&lt;/b&gt; of the people.&lt;/i&gt;&quot; (emphases mine)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is known that the church owns several commercial businesses.  President Gordon B. Hinckley <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&#038;locale=0&#038;sourceId=57648949f2f6b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&#038;hideNav=1" rel="nofollow">noted in General Conference</a> that &#8220;the business assets which the Church has today are an outgrowth of enterprises which were begun in the pioneer era of our history.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rayzor pointed out that some of the general authorities receive a living stipend, which is true.  For those who happen to worry about tithing being used for this, President Hinckley also stated in the same talk, &#8220;I should like to add, parenthetically for your information, that the living allowances given the General Authorities, which are very modest in comparison with executive compensation in industry and the professions, <i>come from this business income and <b>not from the tithing</b> of the people.</i>&#8221; (emphases mine)</p>
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		<title>By: Thaddeus</title>
		<link>http://www.whatdomormonsbelieve.com/2008/08/tithing-and-unpaid-clergy/comment-page-1/#comment-984</link>
		<dc:creator>Thaddeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 21:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rayzor, thanks for pointing that out.  I am aware that some general authorities including the 1st quorum of the seventy, the quorum of the twelve apostles, and the first presidency receive a minimal stipend for their full-time work.  I brushed over this exception in the article to emphasize the important distinction between our faith and many others:  our clergy are volunteer and not motivated to pastor by money.
 
That is still true.  All general authorities who receive a stipend worked in honorable professions aside from the ministry for most of their lives.  As a rule, they enter this arena after they have retired.  They did not seek a position among the presiding Church leaders and they were all called to serve in lower Church positions without pay for most of their lives.  I would be very surprised to discover a seventy who had ambitions to climb the &quot;ecclesiastical ladder&quot; from elders quorum president, bishop, high counselor, stake president, area authority (all unpaid) in order finally (at age 60 or so) to get a minimal stipend.  There are quicker ways to make a buck.
 
President Monson isn&#039;t paid for being a prophet, either.  It&#039;s for being a president; an administrator of the business arm of the Church.  As a leader of this global organization, he has a full-time job to perform and can&#039;t be expected to run a side business, but the brethren do sometimes write books to help support themselves (suggesting their pay is not extravagant).  

Thanks for bringing this up, Rayzor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rayzor, thanks for pointing that out.  I am aware that some general authorities including the 1st quorum of the seventy, the quorum of the twelve apostles, and the first presidency receive a minimal stipend for their full-time work.  I brushed over this exception in the article to emphasize the important distinction between our faith and many others:  our clergy are volunteer and not motivated to pastor by money.</p>
<p>That is still true.  All general authorities who receive a stipend worked in honorable professions aside from the ministry for most of their lives.  As a rule, they enter this arena after they have retired.  They did not seek a position among the presiding Church leaders and they were all called to serve in lower Church positions without pay for most of their lives.  I would be very surprised to discover a seventy who had ambitions to climb the &#8220;ecclesiastical ladder&#8221; from elders quorum president, bishop, high counselor, stake president, area authority (all unpaid) in order finally (at age 60 or so) to get a minimal stipend.  There are quicker ways to make a buck.</p>
<p>President Monson isn&#8217;t paid for being a prophet, either.  It&#8217;s for being a president; an administrator of the business arm of the Church.  As a leader of this global organization, he has a full-time job to perform and can&#8217;t be expected to run a side business, but the brethren do sometimes write books to help support themselves (suggesting their pay is not extravagant).  </p>
<p>Thanks for bringing this up, Rayzor!</p>
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		<title>By: Rayzor</title>
		<link>http://www.whatdomormonsbelieve.com/2008/08/tithing-and-unpaid-clergy/comment-page-1/#comment-983</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayzor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 20:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been a faithful active member of the church since 1992, and study quite a bit on church history and church government issues... You stated, &quot;Tithing does not pay Church leaders. Nobody acquires wealth at the hands of a Mormon congregation. Bishops, stake presidents, and all other leaders in the Church serve willingly without wages, aside from rich, spiritual blessings.&quot; Leaders on the local level (i.e. bishops and stake presidents) may not receive income from the church, but you may want to search a little deeper to see if the upper level leadership does. I just want to make sure that you are getting your facts straight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a faithful active member of the church since 1992, and study quite a bit on church history and church government issues&#8230; You stated, &#8220;Tithing does not pay Church leaders. Nobody acquires wealth at the hands of a Mormon congregation. Bishops, stake presidents, and all other leaders in the Church serve willingly without wages, aside from rich, spiritual blessings.&#8221; Leaders on the local level (i.e. bishops and stake presidents) may not receive income from the church, but you may want to search a little deeper to see if the upper level leadership does. I just want to make sure that you are getting your facts straight.</p>
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		<title>By: Bus Gillespie</title>
		<link>http://www.whatdomormonsbelieve.com/2008/08/tithing-and-unpaid-clergy/comment-page-1/#comment-961</link>
		<dc:creator>Bus Gillespie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 00:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The church does in fact have avenues to give to various causes and groups outside of the church.  A humanitarian donation is available, in the past it has given to the hurricane and earthquake victims of Haiti, the tsunami victims and many many others.  The nice thing about giving through the church is that you know 100% of your gift is going to those in need as the church uses volunteers to staff and oversee the projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The church does in fact have avenues to give to various causes and groups outside of the church.  A humanitarian donation is available, in the past it has given to the hurricane and earthquake victims of Haiti, the tsunami victims and many many others.  The nice thing about giving through the church is that you know 100% of your gift is going to those in need as the church uses volunteers to staff and oversee the projects.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.whatdomormonsbelieve.com/2008/08/tithing-and-unpaid-clergy/comment-page-1/#comment-628</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do his other 33 grandchildren think of him, I wonder?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do his other 33 grandchildren think of him, I wonder?</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://www.whatdomormonsbelieve.com/2008/08/tithing-and-unpaid-clergy/comment-page-1/#comment-627</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As stated in the article above, tithing money does not in fact go to anything or anyone outside the church, like you said.  The purpose of tithing stated in scripture to build up the kingdom of God on the Earth.  Today, in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, it does just that by building buildings of worship and other related buildings.  Additional fast offerings are used to &quot;clothe the naked and feed the hungry.&quot;

It certainly is NOT true that we are not encouraged (or even discouraged) from giving generously outside the church.  We are encouraged to help our neighbor and be generous with what we have. As for Ezra Taft Benson&#039;s grandson, he is entitled to have his own opinion on the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As stated in the article above, tithing money does not in fact go to anything or anyone outside the church, like you said.  The purpose of tithing stated in scripture to build up the kingdom of God on the Earth.  Today, in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, it does just that by building buildings of worship and other related buildings.  Additional fast offerings are used to &#8220;clothe the naked and feed the hungry.&#8221;</p>
<p>It certainly is NOT true that we are not encouraged (or even discouraged) from giving generously outside the church.  We are encouraged to help our neighbor and be generous with what we have. As for Ezra Taft Benson&#8217;s grandson, he is entitled to have his own opinion on the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.whatdomormonsbelieve.com/2008/08/tithing-and-unpaid-clergy/comment-page-1/#comment-625</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, notice how none of the tithing money goes to anything or anyone other than the church!  In fact, LDS ers are not encouraged to give generously outside the church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, notice how none of the tithing money goes to anything or anyone other than the church!  In fact, LDS ers are not encouraged to give generously outside the church.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.whatdomormonsbelieve.com/2008/08/tithing-and-unpaid-clergy/comment-page-1/#comment-624</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EZRA TAFT BENSON&#039;s own grandson calls him a racist.  Type the name in your browser to see the entire article by Steve Benson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EZRA TAFT BENSON&#8217;s own grandson calls him a racist.  Type the name in your browser to see the entire article by Steve Benson.</p>
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		<title>By: Hosander</title>
		<link>http://www.whatdomormonsbelieve.com/2008/08/tithing-and-unpaid-clergy/comment-page-1/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>Hosander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post on one of my favorite topics. Tithing, once I committed to it, has been one of the easiest principles for me to follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post on one of my favorite topics. Tithing, once I committed to it, has been one of the easiest principles for me to follow.</p>
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